Comments on: The Klouda controversy http://patmccullough.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/ a blog exploring Christian origins, biblical studies, social/cultural history, method, education and the journey through academia Mon, 05 Sep 2011 20:53:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Matt http://patmccullough.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Matt Mon, 29 Jan 2007 07:10:00 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/#comment-112 This issue is the reason me (and my wife) have more or less decided to no longer associate with the SBC. It is sickening. This issue is the reason me (and my wife) have more or less decided to no longer associate with the SBC. It is sickening.

]]> By: Patrick George McCullough http://patmccullough.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-111 Patrick George McCullough Sun, 28 Jan 2007 18:19:00 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/#comment-111 It is sad, especially after taking Scholer's class on women at Fuller. The dominant mentality at Fuller (though there are people that disagree) is egalitarian. Even our most conservative professors, with whom I disagree on a number of points, are egalitarian. It's just hard to believe that this stuff is still out there. Have you read the articles in Piper and Grudem's big tome? It's amazing, the arguments they use.<br /><br />I mentioned the Christian radio station in my comment on the last post too. I like a lot of the music because I've been conditioned that way, and I turn it on when I'm tired of hearing people talk on NPR (which is my default radio station). What I don't like is the stuff in the middle of the songs. This guy got on and talked about how important it is to support our troops who are "serving our country." <br /><br />Anyway, they also played this bit with James Dobson. He talked about the importance for "moms" to get a break from the kids. You can't be with the kids <i>all</i> the time, that would be like a <i>man</i> working 24 hours a day. You can get a nugget of wisdom out of that, taking a parenting break and getting down time is important, but it's delivered in a gender stereotyped manner. Nay, more than just stereotype, because he believes it is the <i>God-ordained</i>-type. Why can't we just say stay-at-home "parent" and would be the same as "someone" working an office job 24 hours a day. It doesn't take a whole lot of effort to be less offensive, but of course it's a whole hierarchical ideology. Okay, I'm ranting and raving now, so I'll stop :) It is sad, especially after taking Scholer’s class on women at Fuller. The dominant mentality at Fuller (though there are people that disagree) is egalitarian. Even our most conservative professors, with whom I disagree on a number of points, are egalitarian. It’s just hard to believe that this stuff is still out there. Have you read the articles in Piper and Grudem’s big tome? It’s amazing, the arguments they use.

I mentioned the Christian radio station in my comment on the last post too. I like a lot of the music because I’ve been conditioned that way, and I turn it on when I’m tired of hearing people talk on NPR (which is my default radio station). What I don’t like is the stuff in the middle of the songs. This guy got on and talked about how important it is to support our troops who are “serving our country.”

Anyway, they also played this bit with James Dobson. He talked about the importance for “moms” to get a break from the kids. You can’t be with the kids all the time, that would be like a man working 24 hours a day. You can get a nugget of wisdom out of that, taking a parenting break and getting down time is important, but it’s delivered in a gender stereotyped manner. Nay, more than just stereotype, because he believes it is the God-ordained-type. Why can’t we just say stay-at-home “parent” and would be the same as “someone” working an office job 24 hours a day. It doesn’t take a whole lot of effort to be less offensive, but of course it’s a whole hierarchical ideology. Okay, I’m ranting and raving now, so I’ll stop :)

]]> By: Matt http://patmccullough.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-110 Matt Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:33:00 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/2007/01/27/the-klouda-controversy/#comment-110 Ugh. I hang my head in shame. Well, I guess I haven't claimed to be Southern Baptist for a while now.<br /><br />One of my favorite professors at Truett was made to feel the same way at SWBTS, which led to her departure from there. Sad. Ugh. I hang my head in shame. Well, I guess I haven’t claimed to be Southern Baptist for a while now.

One of my favorite professors at Truett was made to feel the same way at SWBTS, which led to her departure from there. Sad.

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