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	<title>Comments on: Video: Pagels on Colbert Report</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s good to know that I wasn&#039;t off base, &lt;b&gt;Dr. DeConick&lt;/b&gt;. I read &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.com/2007/04/question-about-judas-and-sacrifice.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your post&lt;/a&gt; before seeing your comment here and appreciated it. I would recommend it, as well as &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.com/2007/04/why-release-of-photographs-of-judas-is.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;your most recent post&lt;/a&gt; on the need for the release of photographs of the GoJ, to other readers.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was not yet familiar with the Pseudo-Tertullian reference. After some digging, I think I found it &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03.v.xi.ii.html?highlight=judas#highlight&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I don&#039;t think I&#039;m seeing a direct reference to the text of the Gospel of Judas, but a reference to those who belonged to this Judas-community (perhaps the author is informed by the &quot;Gospel of Judas&quot;?). Let me know if there is another reference out there that is more specific.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;b&gt;Michael&lt;/b&gt;, I agree. If you go on these shows (especially Colbert), you have to be prepared with a good sense of humor and the willingness to get into a silly verbal combat just for the fun of it. I should note that Ehrman did do better on The Daily Show than on Colbert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s good to know that I wasn&#8217;t off base, <b>Dr. DeConick</b>. I read <a HREF="http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.com/2007/04/question-about-judas-and-sacrifice.html" REL="nofollow">your post</a> before seeing your comment here and appreciated it. I would recommend it, as well as <a HREF="http://forbiddengospels.blogspot.com/2007/04/why-release-of-photographs-of-judas-is.html" REL="nofollow">your most recent post</a> on the need for the release of photographs of the GoJ, to other readers.</p>
<p>I was not yet familiar with the Pseudo-Tertullian reference. After some digging, I think I found it <a HREF="http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf03.v.xi.ii.html?highlight=judas#highlight" REL="nofollow">here</a>. I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m seeing a direct reference to the text of the Gospel of Judas, but a reference to those who belonged to this Judas-community (perhaps the author is informed by the &#8220;Gospel of Judas&#8221;?). Let me know if there is another reference out there that is more specific.</p>
<p><b>Michael</b>, I agree. If you go on these shows (especially Colbert), you have to be prepared with a good sense of humor and the willingness to get into a silly verbal combat just for the fun of it. I should note that Ehrman did do better on The Daily Show than on Colbert.</p>
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		<title>By: April DeConick</title>
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		<dc:creator>April DeConick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Check out a question I posted on this on my blog earlier today - we were on the same wavelength.&lt;br/&gt;forbiddengospels.blogspot.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is really Pseudo-Tertullian who suggests Judas was a hero.  Irenaeus reads ambigiously I think.  He says that Judas was the only one who knew anything and his betrayal threw the cosmos into chaos.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regarding your statement:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Would Dr. DeConick suggest that scholars working on the Gospel of Judas are too quick to accept Irenaeus&#039; understanding of its message (if not his judgment of it as heresy) and let it influence their translation? Or perhaps I&#039;m reading too much into things.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t think you are reading into things.  I suspect that this may be what happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>Check out a question I posted on this on my blog earlier today &#8211; we were on the same wavelength.<br />forbiddengospels.blogspot.com</p>
<p>It is really Pseudo-Tertullian who suggests Judas was a hero.  Irenaeus reads ambigiously I think.  He says that Judas was the only one who knew anything and his betrayal threw the cosmos into chaos.  </p>
<p>Regarding your statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;Would Dr. DeConick suggest that scholars working on the Gospel of Judas are too quick to accept Irenaeus&#8217; understanding of its message (if not his judgment of it as heresy) and let it influence their translation? Or perhaps I&#8217;m reading too much into things.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you are reading into things.  I suspect that this may be what happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Westmoreland-White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Westmoreland-White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallis and Campolo came prepared. On the other hand, Bart Ehrmann had clearly never seen the show and came on prepared for a serious interview and, when he encountered Colbert&#039;s over-the-top pseudo-rightwing persona, stared like a deer caught in the headlights. It was sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallis and Campolo came prepared. On the other hand, Bart Ehrmann had clearly never seen the show and came on prepared for a serious interview and, when he encountered Colbert&#8217;s over-the-top pseudo-rightwing persona, stared like a deer caught in the headlights. It was sad.</p>
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