Comments on: "How do you like Fuller Seminary?" http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/ a blog exploring biblical studies and the journey through academia Mon, 01 Mar 2010 15:26:37 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ros http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-610 Ros Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:41:44 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-610 I don't know anyone who managed an MDiv at WTS(Philly) in 3 years. I think their requirement is 92 semester hours plus Greek and Hebrew. I don’t know anyone who managed an MDiv at WTS(Philly) in 3 years. I think their requirement is 92 semester hours plus Greek and Hebrew.

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-609 Michael Westmoreland-White Sat, 16 Aug 2008 12:41:09 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-609 I had heard of both the new library and the new programs--both great developments. I wouldn't mind being Visiting Prof. again (one summer I shared that honor with the late Colin Gunton), but, as I said, I can no longer sign the appropriate documents. I had heard of both the new library and the new programs–both great developments. I wouldn’t mind being Visiting Prof. again (one summer I shared that honor with the late Colin Gunton), but, as I said, I can no longer sign the appropriate documents.

]]> By: Patrick George McCullough http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-608 Patrick George McCullough Fri, 15 Aug 2008 22:24:54 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-608 Hmm. I guess I have misconceptions about other MDiv programs! I suppose a lot of the people I've been talking with are in divinity schools in the university setting. Perhaps those scenarios are more likely to be on a semester system? You might be surprised at how things are developing in the areas of African American and Latino theologies, not just in library holdings, but also in dedicated offices on campus for <a href="http://www.fuller.edu/hispano/" rel="nofollow">Hispanic Ministries</a> and the <a href="http://www.fuller.edu/afam/" rel="nofollow">African American Church Studies program</a>. They are also in the process of building a fancy new library, to be completed in January 2009. They aim to be the largest theological library on the Pacific coast. Hmm. I guess I have misconceptions about other MDiv programs! I suppose a lot of the people I’ve been talking with are in divinity schools in the university setting. Perhaps those scenarios are more likely to be on a semester system?

You might be surprised at how things are developing in the areas of African American and Latino theologies, not just in library holdings, but also in dedicated offices on campus for Hispanic Ministries and the African American Church Studies program.

They are also in the process of building a fancy new library, to be completed in January 2009. They aim to be the largest theological library on the Pacific coast.

]]> By: Michael Westmoreland-White http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-607 Michael Westmoreland-White Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:43:10 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-607 Um, Patrick, when I was at SBTS (before the fundamentalist takeover), it had a quarter schedule similar to Fuller's. Very few people finished an M.Div. in 3 years. Took me 4. Glad you enjoyed Fuller. I enjoyed teaching there as a Visiting Prof. and regret that, now that I have come to believe in full church inclusion for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered Christians, I won't be invited back. Fuller is the best of the capital-E Evangelical seminaries in the U.S. and the most open to interaction with other theologies, but it has its blindspots. I could not believe how limited its library was, especially on African-American and Latino theologies. I had to keep sending my students to Claremont libraries to do papers on Cone, Deotis Roberts, etc. Um, Patrick, when I was at SBTS (before the fundamentalist takeover), it had a quarter schedule similar to Fuller’s. Very few people finished an M.Div. in 3 years. Took me 4.

Glad you enjoyed Fuller. I enjoyed teaching there as a Visiting Prof. and regret that, now that I have come to believe in full church inclusion for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered Christians, I won’t be invited back. Fuller is the best of the capital-E Evangelical seminaries in the U.S. and the most open to interaction with other theologies, but it has its blindspots. I could not believe how limited its library was, especially on African-American and Latino theologies. I had to keep sending my students to Claremont libraries to do papers on Cone, Deotis Roberts, etc.

]]> By: Patrick George McCullough http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-606 Patrick George McCullough Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:12:34 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-606 Nijay, That's unfortunate about Gordon-Conwell. As an aside, I just have to make this connection. My alma mater's (Messiah College) former college pastor is now Gordon-Conwell's president. Maybe he can turn that around :) I actually had Greek coming into Fuller, so I was happy to be able to test out of it and have three extra electives for doctoral seminars, advanced language courses, and lots of New Testament. Seems like that's a better option than TEDS (of course there are theological reasons I wouldn't have been able to go to TEDS anyway). I didn't mention this in the original post, but the quarter system is also annoying with its short bursts of classes. Can you really get into a topic within 10 weeks (let alone while you're taking 2-3 other classes)? Unfortunately, the quarter system is something that I will carry on with at UCLA, but at least I will have more flexible summers. Nijay,

That’s unfortunate about Gordon-Conwell. As an aside, I just have to make this connection. My alma mater’s (Messiah College) former college pastor is now Gordon-Conwell’s president. Maybe he can turn that around :)

I actually had Greek coming into Fuller, so I was happy to be able to test out of it and have three extra electives for doctoral seminars, advanced language courses, and lots of New Testament. Seems like that’s a better option than TEDS (of course there are theological reasons I wouldn’t have been able to go to TEDS anyway).

I didn’t mention this in the original post, but the quarter system is also annoying with its short bursts of classes. Can you really get into a topic within 10 weeks (let alone while you’re taking 2-3 other classes)? Unfortunately, the quarter system is something that I will carry on with at UCLA, but at least I will have more flexible summers.

]]> By: Nijay Gupta http://patmccullough.com/2008/08/14/how-do-you-like-fuller-seminary/comment-page-1/#comment-605 Nijay Gupta Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:58:40 +0000 http://pgmccullough.wordpress.com/?p=356#comment-605 In terms or heavy Mdiv requirements, I was also surprised to know that Trinity (TEDS) requires 120 hours (semester system) with the presupposition that the student has already had Greek before seminary! Thus, to the uninitiated, they actually more than 3 full-time years! Also, I went to Gordon-Conwell and most students study year 'round so you are not alone! In terms or heavy Mdiv requirements, I was also surprised to know that Trinity (TEDS) requires 120 hours (semester system) with the presupposition that the student has already had Greek before seminary! Thus, to the uninitiated, they actually more than 3 full-time years!

Also, I went to Gordon-Conwell and most students study year ’round so you are not alone!

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