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		<title>By: Logos for iPhone/iPod: Not Quite the Dream Yet &#171; kata ta biblia</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/05/07/a-dream-amazon-kindle-and-logos-bible-software/comment-page-1/#comment-843</link>
		<dc:creator>Logos for iPhone/iPod: Not Quite the Dream Yet &#171; kata ta biblia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Comments  When I heard about the Logos 4 app for the iPhone and iPod Touch, I imagined that it was my dream fulfilled. The full realization of my dream is yet deferred, however, as both Chris and Danny pointed out on [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Comments  When I heard about the Logos 4 app for the iPhone and iPod Touch, I imagined that it was my dream fulfilled. The full realization of my dream is yet deferred, however, as both Chris and Danny pointed out on [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John Weathersby</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/05/07/a-dream-amazon-kindle-and-logos-bible-software/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>John Weathersby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too dream about brining ‘books’ from Logos Bible Software over to a kindle reader (which would be how I found this blog).  I truly do not like reading from a computer monitor and would very much like to read electronic resources while having the ‘book like’ interface provided by the kindle.

My massive Logos library is great for research, but reading large amounts of text such as a &#039;book&#039; is an unfortunate and foreign experience to the Logos Bible Software interface.  Desired features such as book marking, page turning, and non straining reading are not existent.  Further, holding the ‘book’ in  your hand and having portability (bed/couch/airplane/walking/waiting room/etc...) is something you cannot fully achieve from the laptop!

I’d love to see an interface which would allow us to easily export text into reading devices iPhone, Kindle, etc… I think possibly each ‘book’ or file could have a timer set to corrupt the file after some amount of time.  This would stop the text from unwarranted distribution to those who are not rightful owners, but would allow the rightful owner to bring the book into a more comfortable and appropriate reading environment.

Here is to kindle reading our Logos Bible Software resources!

In Him for the Gospel,

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too dream about brining ‘books’ from Logos Bible Software over to a kindle reader (which would be how I found this blog).  I truly do not like reading from a computer monitor and would very much like to read electronic resources while having the ‘book like’ interface provided by the kindle.</p>
<p>My massive Logos library is great for research, but reading large amounts of text such as a &#8216;book&#8217; is an unfortunate and foreign experience to the Logos Bible Software interface.  Desired features such as book marking, page turning, and non straining reading are not existent.  Further, holding the ‘book’ in  your hand and having portability (bed/couch/airplane/walking/waiting room/etc&#8230;) is something you cannot fully achieve from the laptop!</p>
<p>I’d love to see an interface which would allow us to easily export text into reading devices iPhone, Kindle, etc… I think possibly each ‘book’ or file could have a timer set to corrupt the file after some amount of time.  This would stop the text from unwarranted distribution to those who are not rightful owners, but would allow the rightful owner to bring the book into a more comfortable and appropriate reading environment.</p>
<p>Here is to kindle reading our Logos Bible Software resources!</p>
<p>In Him for the Gospel,</p>
<p>John</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/05/07/a-dream-amazon-kindle-and-logos-bible-software/comment-page-1/#comment-842</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 14:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not that I know anything, but I would say no, stick to your laptop. At this point, it doesn&#039;t look like any e-reader is really going to be good for research. The price is going to come down and the device will get better over time.

One more thing... I would take that money and put it into Bible software!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that I know anything, but I would say no, stick to your laptop. At this point, it doesn&#8217;t look like any e-reader is really going to be good for research. The price is going to come down and the device will get better over time.</p>
<p>One more thing&#8230; I would take that money and put it into Bible software!</p>
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		<title>By: mom2olivia</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom2olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the debate. Quick question for you though...
As a new seminary student this upcomming fall, and a wide-eyed onlooker to the kindle, would it behoove me to purchase such a pricey device?, I see schools like Rockbridge are jumping on board with it.  I already have to invest in a laptop, but I love the e-reader idea of having many books at your fingertips... Thoughts please :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the debate. Quick question for you though&#8230;<br />
As a new seminary student this upcomming fall, and a wide-eyed onlooker to the kindle, would it behoove me to purchase such a pricey device?, I see schools like Rockbridge are jumping on board with it.  I already have to invest in a laptop, but I love the e-reader idea of having many books at your fingertips&#8230; Thoughts please <img src='http://patmccullough.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kindle-ize your Blog &#171; katagrapho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kindle-ize your Blog &#171; katagrapho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 17:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] myself, the Kindle will stand in for individual books from time to time.  It will not become some fascinating hyperlinked handheld computer or research tool. I don&#8217;t think Amazon imagines a researcher replacing all the many books and the computer she [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] myself, the Kindle will stand in for individual books from time to time.  It will not become some fascinating hyperlinked handheld computer or research tool. I don&#8217;t think Amazon imagines a researcher replacing all the many books and the computer she [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Carden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Carden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 22:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post which led me to reflect on technology and a biblical deam of mine

http://michaelcardensjottings.blogspot.com/2009/05/kindle-and-canon.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post which led me to reflect on technology and a biblical deam of mine</p>
<p><a href="http://michaelcardensjottings.blogspot.com/2009/05/kindle-and-canon.html" rel="nofollow">http://michaelcardensjottings.blogspot.com/2009/05/kindle-and-canon.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hauger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hauger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately, even if Logos closes its doors in 2022, you&#039;ll likely be able to continue using the software indefinitely. Virtualization will ensure that you have a computing environment that will run that ol&#039; Logos software you bought.

But you&#039;ll also be locked into the software as it stood when Logos &quot;went down in ashes.&quot; No more improvements, no new features. But if your digital resources were unlocked, you could simply plug them into Logos&#039; successor and go right on doing your Bible thang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately, even if Logos closes its doors in 2022, you&#8217;ll likely be able to continue using the software indefinitely. Virtualization will ensure that you have a computing environment that will run that ol&#8217; Logos software you bought.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;ll also be locked into the software as it stood when Logos &#8220;went down in ashes.&#8221; No more improvements, no new features. But if your digital resources were unlocked, you could simply plug them into Logos&#8217; successor and go right on doing your Bible thang.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/05/07/a-dream-amazon-kindle-and-logos-bible-software/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said. You make a good point. I don&#039;t really care too much about it, though I would care if Logos went down in ashes and I couldn&#039;t use the thousands of dollars of resources I have purchased. Basically, I feel like I&#039;m for whatever might allow me to use my Logos resources on something like the Kindle (or whatever the future of the Kindle looks like).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said. You make a good point. I don&#8217;t really care too much about it, though I would care if Logos went down in ashes and I couldn&#8217;t use the thousands of dollars of resources I have purchased. Basically, I feel like I&#8217;m for whatever might allow me to use my Logos resources on something like the Kindle (or whatever the future of the Kindle looks like).</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Hauger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Hauger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s the thing. I really don&#039;t think it&#039;s in their interest to leave things locked-down. It doesn&#039;t really prevent piracy; all it does is frustrate customers.

Look at the digital music revolution (I sound like such a tool when I use that term) for an example. Everything was DRMed at the start; you&#039;d buy it from walmart.com or iTunes, and there would be copy protection embedded in the file. Then, predictably, some of the music stores started to close. Yahoo Music (for example) shut down its authentication servers, and suddenly consumers had NO way to transfer their music to a new computer. They lost the license to music that they had legitimately bought.

Customers complained, resisted, and (of course) pursued DRM-free music through illegal means. Eventually, the digital music distributors (including Amazon!) woke up and switched over to legitimate, DRM-free offerings. Just last month, Apple finally converted their entire iTunes music store to non-locked-down offerings.

Now we seem destined to endure the same torturous experience with digital video and digital books. It&#039;s as if the whole DRMed music fiasco never happened. As if Amazon never learned that consumers HATE locked-down content. If I buy a digital resource, I want to OWN that resource. I should be able to view it on my laptop, my iPod, my Kindle, my GPS, my TV, and my toaster. If I want to, let me print it out at the library. If they can&#039;t provide users with basic ownership rights, then they shouldn&#039;t be surprised when users pursue other avenues for acquiring the content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s the thing. I really don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s in their interest to leave things locked-down. It doesn&#8217;t really prevent piracy; all it does is frustrate customers.</p>
<p>Look at the digital music revolution (I sound like such a tool when I use that term) for an example. Everything was DRMed at the start; you&#8217;d buy it from walmart.com or iTunes, and there would be copy protection embedded in the file. Then, predictably, some of the music stores started to close. Yahoo Music (for example) shut down its authentication servers, and suddenly consumers had NO way to transfer their music to a new computer. They lost the license to music that they had legitimately bought.</p>
<p>Customers complained, resisted, and (of course) pursued DRM-free music through illegal means. Eventually, the digital music distributors (including Amazon!) woke up and switched over to legitimate, DRM-free offerings. Just last month, Apple finally converted their entire iTunes music store to non-locked-down offerings.</p>
<p>Now we seem destined to endure the same torturous experience with digital video and digital books. It&#8217;s as if the whole DRMed music fiasco never happened. As if Amazon never learned that consumers HATE locked-down content. If I buy a digital resource, I want to OWN that resource. I should be able to view it on my laptop, my iPod, my Kindle, my GPS, my TV, and my toaster. If I want to, let me print it out at the library. If they can&#8217;t provide users with basic ownership rights, then they shouldn&#8217;t be surprised when users pursue other avenues for acquiring the content.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/05/07/a-dream-amazon-kindle-and-logos-bible-software/comment-page-1/#comment-834</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Matt. You communist. How dare you question the gospel of unfettered capitalism? ;) Seriously, Amazon is a giant. Giants have the power to make huge cultural shifts if it is in their interest. Not that I really know anything about this stuff, but Amazon has the potential for moving things forward significantly, like you say.

Not that I think my idea is likely, but I think Amazon partnering with a company that is a leader in pushing a digital library for Christian literature is more likely than for-profit companies opening up their arms and joyously embracing each other in their common pursuit towards the freedom of information :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Matt. You communist. How dare you question the gospel of unfettered capitalism? <img src='http://patmccullough.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Seriously, Amazon is a giant. Giants have the power to make huge cultural shifts if it is in their interest. Not that I really know anything about this stuff, but Amazon has the potential for moving things forward significantly, like you say.</p>
<p>Not that I think my idea is likely, but I think Amazon partnering with a company that is a leader in pushing a digital library for Christian literature is more likely than for-profit companies opening up their arms and joyously embracing each other in their common pursuit towards the freedom of information <img src='http://patmccullough.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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