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The End of the Biblioblog Top 50?

So, as commenters are rightly calling bizarre, “Jim’s Minions” at the Biblioblog Top 50 posts this:

This is the final post for The Biblioblog Top 50. Several days ago, in an attempt to dissociate our blog from humorless bibliobloggers such as Christopher Heard and Alan Lenzi, we ‘officialized’ Jim West as CEO of the Biblioblog Top 50. Despite this implicit plea for removal from the priggish posts of the self-appointed guardians of anal retentiveness, our plea was ignored. One can infer only one thing: being a part of their idea of “Bibliobloggers” is not voluntary and if one wishes to be removed, one has to delete one’s blog.

So we will not post again until Alan Lenzi resumes biblioblogging. See you around the biblioblogosphere.

But, if you go read Alan’s post, you will see that he seems to be taking the website a little too seriously (which is ironic). The post on Biblioblog Top 50 is a blatant parody of Alan’s post. In that context, it appears to be a good joke (albeit at Alan’s expense).

If this is something more than a joke, however, I would be disappointed. I see the Biblioblog Top 50 as a fun activity that we can participate in each month. I think it breeds a little community, even it is the cyber version of community, to have something like the rankings to chat about around the turn of each month. I also appreciate the site’s attempt to list all blogs related to biblical studies.

Alan’s posts of late seem to be viewing the Biblioblog Top 50 site as something of a corporation or an established organization. Rather, it is an independent blog doing a service for other bloggers. They have the right to link to whomever they’d like. How ridiculous would it be for me to stop blogging simply because John Anderson links to my page and I didn’t like some of his posts? (Thanks for the link, John. I love your posts :) )

At any rate, if the Biblioblog Top 50 is not simply joking, then we should try to figure out how to carry on its legacy. Maybe that would be the juice that Biblioblogs.com needs to get an extra kick . . .

Update: Yes, it was simply a parody. It is not the end.

Clarification: Jim G. and John A. have wisely stated in the comments that they think it better to stay out of the kerfuffles, like this one. I do think theirs is a good move. I would like to clarify, particularly for Alan’s sake, that I mean no ill will towards him with this post. I tried to go over to his blog and say that, but he’s disabled his comments. But he does say that the affiliation of bibliobloggers with SBL is both “taking things too seriously” and “over the top.” If you’re going to close your blog down for personal reasons, that’s fine. But to shut down all activity on your blog because a site is linking to you does seem to me to be “taking things too seriously” and “over the top.” Just sayin’ . . .

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  • http://hesedweemet.wordpress.com John Anderson

    Thanks, Pat. Your words mean a lot. I, obviously, enjoy reading your stuff as well (even if you are a bit too into that apocalyptic thing for me!–wink).

    I have found it wise, and helpful, to just stay out of these recent blogging kerfuffles.

  • http://jimgetz.org jimgetz

    I’m staying out of this one as well.

  • http://patmccullough.com/ Patrick George McCullough

    How can you be “too into” apocalyptic?? :)

  • http://hesedweemet.wordpress.com John Anderson

    I know, Pat. It’s hard for me to understand also. It’s probably the equivalent of NOT being interested in the Jacob cycle. Just . . . . pshhhh . . . . puzzling!

  • http://patmccullough.com/ Patrick George McCullough

    Well, just for the record, I am interested in the Jacob cycle. Just not as much as I am in Jesus.

  • http://hesedweemet.wordpress.com John Anderson

    Would it be wrong if I said the same was true for me, only in reverse?

  • http://patmccullough.com/ Patrick George McCullough

    Of course ;)

  • Alan Lenzi

    I think I’ve clarified my position in my “about the end” post. I don’t take blogging all that seriously. I never have. But I do take my professional organization (SBL) and its affiliations seriously. That’s where my problem started. And a lack of leadership compounded with a lack of civility only made matters worse.

    By the way, I turned off comments globally when I ended the blog. I didn’t show a “comments” link on the last two posts because the comments had already been turned off for the whole site. (Sometimes people comment on much older posts and I didn’t want to give the impression that I was actively maintaining the site).

  • http://patmccullough.com/ Patrick George McCullough

    Alan, Thanks for the clarification. It’s a fair point: (1) that you take your membership with SBL quite seriously, (2) you think that an affiliation with “Bibliobloggers” reflects poorly upon the SBL, and (3) you would prefer not to be associated with that group which you feel makes a negative impression on the SBL.

    On the other hand, it seems to me that your own blog (if you kept blogging) would be evidence against number 2. If you take your own personal membership with SBL that seriously, isn’t yours the sort of blog that SBL would want to highlight for its other members who are oblivious to blogging (if that were one of the purposes of the affiliation)?

    From your post, it feels to me that you are placing a great weight on Jim W. as the “leader” of Biblioblogging. Just so you know, I do consider myself a biblioblogger, but I do not consider Jim West my leader (even if he gets lots of visits on his blog). I think most bibliobloggers would say the same. And honestly, I don’t think that Jim himself would even claim such a role.

    I would just like to say that I hope that you reconsider your position.

  • Alan Lenzi

    >>If you take your own personal membership with SBL that seriously, isn’t yours the sort of blog that SBL would want to highlight for its other members who are oblivious to blogging<< My membership in SBL isn't what I take so seriously; rather, the way the SBL conducts itself and the affiliations it forges and its credibility. . . . I don't know if they'd want to highlight my blog. I say explicitly on my blog (at the very bottom) that the blog is the work of a scholar but not a scholarly work. I do post some of my writing as a kind of preview for friends to look at and give me feedback. But I often also post stuff that is polemical, personal, or just sort of arm-chair musings. I also criticize the SBL sometimes, especially early on when the blog started. So my blog is a mixed bag, which is what I've told Kent Richards. Blogging is more like a hobby to me, sometimes a hobby horse. I think a lot of us see it that way. It's not like doing serious scholarship. It's like talking shop. Maybe biblioblogging does foster biblical scholarship. Maybe the SBL should support it. I think I may have had a different reaction if the point-man for getting the affiliation recognized had shown more leadership, provided more clarity about what was going on (in a civil manner!), and been explicit about how individual bloggers could decide to relate themselves to this organization–probably too strong of a word–called Bibliobloggers. I think some of this is clearer now. But we know how it went that first week or so. . . . The other thing I should make clear: I’m a pre-tenure faculty member. My professional work has been (3rd year review) and will again be carefully scrutinized by peers who will decide whether I get to keep my job. I thought my association with the Biblioblogger “group” might not only reflect poorly upon the SBL but upon me professionally too because it might make my blog look like one of my professional associations and not just a personal blog (related by theme to stuff I work on). Recall the disclaimer at the bottom of my blog. I’ve tried to be very clear that although I have an academic position, my blog, which is the work of a scholar, is not part of my “real” academic work. I did this from the start to make sure I could explain it away as a personal project to a P&T committee if I ever had to. (I used my real name and gave my academic institution on my blog to keep me honest and civil “in the cyber-community” just as I would here in Stockton when I meet people and tell them what I do for a living.) Call me paranoid, but one doesn’t want to endanger one’s livelihood with questionable associations (in terms of value but also in terms of personal impact). And I saw Bibliobloggers-as-an-”official”-SBL-affiliate, based on what I had to go on, as such a questionable association. When you have to start thinking about tenure and you’ve got three kids dependent upon you, your brain will work differently, too. You know?

  • http://patmccullough.com/ Patrick George McCullough

    Thanks, Alan. Good points. I completely understand the personal reasons.

    I am thinking about not only tenure, but also simply gaining employment in a couple years. I try not to produce anything here that would reflect poorly upon me in that effort. And I do have one kid who is dependent on me and my wife in that search. So, I do feel you.

  • http://jwest.wordpress.com Jim

    oh you’re mistaken. i am not only THE leader of biblioblogdom but i am lord and master of all bloggers and those who disagree are not allowed to blog from henceforth.

    and, i have a bridge in new york for sale. i’m happy, happy, happy to sell it to all those who believe that anyone is in charge of blogdom. really. i mean it. for cheap…