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		<title>By: andyrowell94</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-1/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>andyrowell94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted SBL Deliverance of God session with Campbell, Gorman, Moo and Torrance

http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2009/11/audio-from-sbl-deliverance-of-god-session-with-campbell-gorman-moo-and-torrance.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted <acronym title="Society of Biblical Literature">SBL</acronym> Deliverance of God session with Campbell, Gorman, Moo and Torrance</p>
<p><a href="http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2009/11/audio-from-sbl-deliverance-of-god-session-with-campbell-gorman-moo-and-torrance.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2009/11/audio-from-sbl-deliverance-of-god-session-with-campbell-gorman-moo-and-torrance.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a great response. I think I agree with Kevin (below) in that I wouldn&#039;t want my research put up online at this point in my career, even though I appreciate hearing the presentations of other scholars so much.

My presentation next Tuesday represents my first steps towards a dissertation. That&#039;s not something I really want to expose to the whole world as of yet (we all know the whole world would want to download the thoughts of Pat McCullough).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a great response. I think I agree with Kevin (below) in that I wouldn&#8217;t want my research put up online at this point in my career, even though I appreciate hearing the presentations of other scholars so much.</p>
<p>My presentation next Tuesday represents my first steps towards a dissertation. That&#8217;s not something I really want to expose to the whole world as of yet (we all know the whole world would want to download the thoughts of Pat McCullough).</p>
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		<title>By: kevinscull</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevinscull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would answer your request with the same, though less polished, type of response.  As one who has not published my work yet I am quite guarded with it and only present my work to receive feedback.  I certainly would not want my prelimary findings attached to me for eternity.  However, once my work is published and I find a tenure track job my answer will change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would answer your request with the same, though less polished, type of response.  As one who has not published my work yet I am quite guarded with it and only present my work to receive feedback.  I certainly would not want my prelimary findings attached to me for eternity.  However, once my work is published and I find a tenure track job my answer will change.</p>
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		<title>By: andyrowell94</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-1/#comment-1299</link>
		<dc:creator>andyrowell94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is an excellent response from a professor who can remain nameless which gives a good argument for not recording sessions.  I&#039;m trying to sincerely show both sides of the argument.  The professor writes:

Thank you for your inquiry, and for requesting permission to record our forthcoming SBL session.   I greatly appreciate the courtesy of being asked first!

Unfortunately, past experience leads me to decline virtually all such requests, especially if they involve the possibility of recording (1) unpublished research or (2) unscripted scenarios like Q&amp;A periods.   Unhappy experiences with the former make it seem inherently problematic, while in the case of the latter I prefer the freedom to speak frankly or perhaps unguardedly without having my comments (e.g. about viewpoints of which I might be critical) immediately plastered all over the internet.  (I occasionally take a somewhat freer view of requests pertaining to other scripted material like popular talks, sermons, or material based on published work.)

I trust you understand, and thank you for your interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is an excellent response from a professor who can remain nameless which gives a good argument for not recording sessions.  I&#8217;m trying to sincerely show both sides of the argument.  The professor writes:</p>
<p>Thank you for your inquiry, and for requesting permission to record our forthcoming <acronym title="Society of Biblical Literature">SBL</acronym> session.   I greatly appreciate the courtesy of being asked first!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, past experience leads me to decline virtually all such requests, especially if they involve the possibility of recording (1) unpublished research or (2) unscripted scenarios like Q&amp;A periods.   Unhappy experiences with the former make it seem inherently problematic, while in the case of the latter I prefer the freedom to speak frankly or perhaps unguardedly without having my comments (e.g. about viewpoints of which I might be critical) immediately plastered all over the internet.  (I occasionally take a somewhat freer view of requests pertaining to other scripted material like popular talks, sermons, or material based on published work.)</p>
<p>I trust you understand, and thank you for your interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:29:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Andy. I was thinking of that post as one of the most helpful for me. In fact, I recently downloaded the session on Paul and Empire for a paper I am working on. I had to miss it at the time, unfortunately. I&#039;m now listening to it as part of my commute to UCLA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Andy. I was thinking of that post as one of the most helpful for me. In fact, I recently downloaded the session on Paul and Empire for a paper I am working on. I had to miss it at the time, unfortunately. I&#8217;m now listening to it as part of my commute to UCLA!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for providing your method of request, Andy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for providing your method of request, Andy!</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick George McCullough</title>
		<link>http://patmccullough.com/2009/11/14/audio-recordings-of-sbl-sessions/comment-page-/#comment-1296</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick George McCullough</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Outstanding!! I imagine that will be a sought after download!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outstanding!! I imagine that will be a sought after download!</p>
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		<title>By: andyrowell94</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyrowell94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 00:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to dominate the comment thread.  Just wanted to let you know I did get permission from everyone to record and post the following session.

Andy

23-233

Pauline Soteriology
11/23/2009
1:00 PM to 3:30 PM
Room: Grand Ballroom C - SH

Theme: Book Review: Douglas Campbell, The Deliverance of God: An Apocalyptic Rereading of Justification in Paul (Eerdmans, 2009)

Ann Jervis, Wycliffe College, Presiding
Michael J. Gorman, Saint Mary&#039;s Seminary and University, Panelist (20 min)
Alan Torrance, University of St. Andrews-Scotland, Panelist (20 min)
Douglas Moo, Wheaton College, Panelist (20 min)
Douglas Campbell, Duke University, Respondent (20 min)
Break (10 min)
Discussion (60 min)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to dominate the comment thread.  Just wanted to let you know I did get permission from everyone to record and post the following session.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
<p>23-233</p>
<p>Pauline Soteriology<br />
11/23/2009<br />
1:00 PM to 3:30 PM<br />
Room: Grand Ballroom C &#8211; SH</p>
<p>Theme: Book Review: Douglas Campbell, The Deliverance of God: An Apocalyptic Rereading of Justification in Paul (Eerdmans, 2009)</p>
<p>Ann Jervis, Wycliffe College, Presiding<br />
Michael J. Gorman, Saint Mary&#8217;s Seminary and University, Panelist (20 min)<br />
Alan Torrance, University of St. Andrews-Scotland, Panelist (20 min)<br />
Douglas Moo, Wheaton College, Panelist (20 min)<br />
Douglas Campbell, Duke University, Respondent (20 min)<br />
Break (10 min)<br />
Discussion (60 min)</p>
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		<title>By: andyrowell94</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyrowell94</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have asked permission to record three sessions.  We&#039;ll see what the professors say.  Here&#039;s my sample email:

Dear Professors __, __, __, __, __,
I am a Duke doctoral student and looking forward to your session at SBL and was thinking about recording it and posting it on my blog.  (Or we could post it somewhere else on one of your websites).  I taped 9 papers two years ago at SBL/AAR and people loved it.  I don&#039;t make any money on it.  I&#039;m just doing it because I know a lot of people would love to hear it and it is easy to do.  I just have to press play and stop on a little recorder and then upload it on to the internet.  It won&#039;t be professional but your fans will still be grateful.

If you could email me back with the ok, that would be great.

If you would rather wait to see how it turns out, that is fine too.  I think there will be a lot of people who will come up to you and be sad they missed the session and you can tell them that it will be posted.  Then you can give them my website or they can just google your name and paper title and it will come up.  I would not be surprised if the room is packed.  I will also link to one of your books by each of your names.  Don&#039;t stress too much about this.  If you would rather not, I just will not post yours.

All the best,

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have asked permission to record three sessions.  We&#8217;ll see what the professors say.  Here&#8217;s my sample email:</p>
<p>Dear Professors __, __, __, __, __,<br />
I am a Duke doctoral student and looking forward to your session at <acronym title="Society of Biblical Literature">SBL</acronym> and was thinking about recording it and posting it on my blog.  (Or we could post it somewhere else on one of your websites).  I taped 9 papers two years ago at <acronym title="Society of Biblical Literature">SBL</acronym>/<acronym title="American Academy of Religion">AAR</acronym> and people loved it.  I don&#8217;t make any money on it.  I&#8217;m just doing it because I know a lot of people would love to hear it and it is easy to do.  I just have to press play and stop on a little recorder and then upload it on to the internet.  It won&#8217;t be professional but your fans will still be grateful.</p>
<p>If you could email me back with the ok, that would be great.</p>
<p>If you would rather wait to see how it turns out, that is fine too.  I think there will be a lot of people who will come up to you and be sad they missed the session and you can tell them that it will be posted.  Then you can give them my website or they can just google your name and paper title and it will come up.  I would not be surprised if the room is packed.  I will also link to one of your books by each of your names.  Don&#8217;t stress too much about this.  If you would rather not, I just will not post yours.</p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Rowell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Rowell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recorded and posted sessions two years ago and got everyone&#039;s permission.  http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2007/11/audio-from-a-fe.html

But Chris and John are of course right that one should be very cautious as there are very different views on these sort of issues.

There are on the one hand people who are completely unfamiliar with blogs and podcasts and are completely unaware of anything besides published journals and monographs.  They will of course be appalled by privacy issues.  They will say what we all said 5 years ago as the internet was bursting with information: Why would I have a blog?  Why would I have a picture of myself online for everyone to see?  Why would I post my email address online?  Why would I post information and content for free?

Then there are others--perhaps like all of us blog commenters--who are completely used to seeing content online.  There are millions of podcasts, interviews, sermons, book reviews, and articles online.  Mark Goodacre&#039;s New Testament blog and now podcast are good examples.  The NT Wright page is another.

Again, I just think people are on very different pages on this kind of thing.

People who speak publicly all the time are used to it.  I may record some this year.  I haven&#039;t decided yet.

Andy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recorded and posted sessions two years ago and got everyone&#8217;s permission.  <a href="http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2007/11/audio-from-a-fe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.andyrowell.net/andy_rowell/2007/11/audio-from-a-fe.html</a></p>
<p>But Chris and John are of course right that one should be very cautious as there are very different views on these sort of issues.</p>
<p>There are on the one hand people who are completely unfamiliar with blogs and podcasts and are completely unaware of anything besides published journals and monographs.  They will of course be appalled by privacy issues.  They will say what we all said 5 years ago as the internet was bursting with information: Why would I have a blog?  Why would I have a picture of myself online for everyone to see?  Why would I post my email address online?  Why would I post information and content for free?</p>
<p>Then there are others&#8211;perhaps like all of us blog commenters&#8211;who are completely used to seeing content online.  There are millions of podcasts, interviews, sermons, book reviews, and articles online.  Mark Goodacre&#8217;s New Testament blog and now podcast are good examples.  The NT Wright page is another.</p>
<p>Again, I just think people are on very different pages on this kind of thing.</p>
<p>People who speak publicly all the time are used to it.  I may record some this year.  I haven&#8217;t decided yet.</p>
<p>Andy</p>
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